Is the stuff behind the veil really that bad compared to what's already here? - Page 2

kgdaemperor · 03-08-2010, 08:20 AM

i think worrying about dangers causes dangers. just get good at what you do and when you feel ready do what ever is next. but i believe in the law of attraction and they only way to beat that is balance.

So veil energy is all one energy? Earth energy(by Einstein E=MC2) everything, even other dimensions, by our common accepted knowledge, is made up of one energy. whats the big difference? shouldn't they all have the same core energy, since all is one energy? Beings of another realm most likely interact with energy better than we do since we are so great at limitations.

Pat McDonald · 03-09-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kgdaemperor

i think worrying about dangers causes dangers. just get good at what you do and when you feel ready do what ever is next. but i believe in the law of attraction and they only way to beat that is balance.

So veil energy is all one energy? Earth energy(by Einstein E=MC2) everything, even other dimensions, by our common accepted knowledge, is made up of one energy. whats the big difference? shouldn't they all have the same core energy, since all is one energy?

Welcome to superstring cosmic theory. Everything essentially consists of bits of string. So tiny they make electrons seem like planets. :)

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Originally Posted by kgdaemperor

Beings of another realm most likely interact with energy better than we do since we are so great at limitations.

I would hazard a guess that "beings of another realm" differ in perceptions just as human beings do.

Minsc · 03-09-2010, 12:24 PM

Yeah now on the internets, they usually define the veil as either
1) the boundary between the physical plane and the astral plane ( e.g. http://otherkincommunity.net/glossary )
2) the boundary between the physical plane and the spirit world.

But this veil that the psion guild, house of ancients, and some vampire boards talk about appears to be some completely different plane. Now there's supposedly lots of different planes of existences out there, but somehow a bunch of people have noticed this one. I think this plane is more along the lines of something out of Buddhist cosomology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_cosmology where it's some higher plane where they've transcended thought. If you remember, when veil energy and mental-based energy (esp. psi energy) meet, the mental energy tends to ignite whereas this kind of veil energy doesn't do that to life energy. Now while I know from experience that Buddhist cosmology is largely fictional, the basic idea makes sense.

kgdaemperor · 03-09-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat McDonald

I would hazard a guess that "beings of another realm" differ in perceptions just as human beings do.

til proof of other beings being as easily manipulated as us, there is no hazard

Sir Pumpkin LongShanks · 03-21-2010, 05:37 AM

'The Other Side' or 'The Veil' I believe is just another plane of existence where spiritual entities and energy collect. Just as we have unique ecosystems of predators consuming prey for the ENERGY in their bodies, wouldn't Those spirits have to consume other spirits for their own spiritual energy to stay 'alive' or to become stronger?

psi seeker 34 · 03-23-2010, 02:41 AM

indeed they would unless they have some sort of plants or can get energy from a non living source

Deux · 04-16-2010, 05:31 AM

Man, it's like real-life Kick-Ass. Except real. 0.o Eeek.

Anyways, yes, back on topic.

There seem to be a lot of different veils, and each have their own properties, inhabitants, etc. Is it all just the same place, just experienced with different perceptions?

Or are there separate realms which can be visited and each would be recognizable regardless of who visited it (i.e. if I go to a Burger King, and my friend goes to the same Burger King later, we expect to see mostly the same stuff. Different people working, different customers, but mostly the same place)

Or is it all dependent on one's expectations and what is inside one's head/mind before they go to the veil?

I've done some moderately advanced occult work before, so I totally understand how things can get dodgy when you're working near/with/across the veil. But I would also really like to be able to discern real phenomena from stuff that is invented by my own mind. (unless you have a solipsistic model of reality, which I don't)

03-23-2010, 02:41 AM	#16
psi seeker 34 highly advanced non Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chattanooga TN look me up if you pass by. Posts: 1,714 Rep Power: 0	indeed they would unless they have some sort of plants or can get energy from a non living source __________________ when the mind tries to contemplate infinity it becomes oblivion however does the mind become infinity when it tries to contemplate oblivion ? If you can't understand the above ask captain jack sparrow. When you were born,you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die the world cries and you rejoice. - Cherokee

04-16-2010, 05:31 AM	#17
Deux BRAINSTORM!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	Man, it's like real-life Kick-Ass. Except real. 0.o Eeek. Anyways, yes, back on topic. There seem to be a lot of different veils, and each have their own properties, inhabitants, etc. Is it all just the same place, just experienced with different perceptions? Or are there separate realms which can be visited and each would be recognizable regardless of who visited it (i.e. if I go to a Burger King, and my friend goes to the same Burger King later, we expect to see mostly the same stuff. Different people working, different customers, but mostly the same place) Or is it all dependent on one's expectations and what is inside one's head/mind before they go to the veil? I've done some moderately advanced occult work before, so I totally understand how things can get dodgy when you're working near/with/across the veil. But I would also really like to be able to discern real phenomena from stuff that is invented by my own mind. (unless you have a solipsistic model of reality, which I don't) __________________ "If you've done things right, people won't be sure if you've done anything at all. " - The God Entity in Futurama "The existence of mind in some organism on some planet in the universe is surely a fact of fundamental significance. Through conscious beings the universe has generated self-awareness. This can be no trivial detail, no minor byproduct of mindless, purposeless forces. We are truly meant to be here." - Paul Davies A police officer pulls Werner Heisenberg over for speeding. He asks the physicist, "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?" Heisenberg replies, "No, but I know exactly where I am."

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03-08-2010, 08:20 AM	#11
kgdaemperor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NC Posts: 213 Rep Power: 0	i think worrying about dangers causes dangers. just get good at what you do and when you feel ready do what ever is next. but i believe in the law of attraction and they only way to beat that is balance. So veil energy is all one energy? Earth energy(by Einstein E=MC2) everything, even other dimensions, by our common accepted knowledge, is made up of one energy. whats the big difference? shouldn't they all have the same core energy, since all is one energy? Beings of another realm most likely interact with energy better than we do since we are so great at limitations.

03-09-2010, 12:24 PM	#13
Minsc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 298 Rep Power: 0	Yeah now on the internets, they usually define the veil as either 1) the boundary between the physical plane and the astral plane ( e.g. http://otherkincommunity.net/glossary ) 2) the boundary between the physical plane and the spirit world. But this veil that the psion guild, house of ancients, and some vampire boards talk about appears to be some completely different plane. Now there's supposedly lots of different planes of existences out there, but somehow a bunch of people have noticed this one. I think this plane is more along the lines of something out of Buddhist cosomology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_cosmology where it's some higher plane where they've transcended thought. If you remember, when veil energy and mental-based energy (esp. psi energy) meet, the mental energy tends to ignite whereas this kind of veil energy doesn't do that to life energy. Now while I know from experience that Buddhist cosmology is largely fictional, the basic idea makes sense.

03-21-2010, 05:37 AM	#15
Sir Pumpkin LongShanks Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	'The Other Side' or 'The Veil' I believe is just another plane of existence where spiritual entities and energy collect. Just as we have unique ecosystems of predators consuming prey for the ENERGY in their bodies, wouldn't Those spirits have to consume other spirits for their own spiritual energy to stay 'alive' or to become stronger?