Bilocation

[Nervous]

Originally Posted by Daimon

I have never heard of, or seen anyone do this and I personally do not think it is possible.

It would be insanely awesome to be able to though.

I agree, though I did hear of a mexican priest who was known for being in two places at once. Though I hav'nt looked into it enough to really trust it.

[kgdaemperor]

thats what i say about jesus being a psion but many don't like that lol

[psionide]

If he were a psion then he must have been ridicously skilled to break the laws of conservation with that bread and fish trick. And resurrecting HIMSELF 3 days after he was killed? I can barely raise myself out of bed in the morning, let alone from the dead

In all seriousness though, about these miracle-performing historical religious figures - I don't think we should just assume they were just really advanced psions, because we really don't know what kind of energy they were using to do their juju, if indeed they were using a form of subtle energy manipulation in the first place. They could have been using some other mechanism. Until I see people breaking the traditional laws of physics on the streets (or manage to do so myself, I'm going to reserve my judgement on the matter of the "psionicity" of Jesus, Buddha and all their holy friends. And that's coming from a devout athiest

[kgdaemperor]

well in all logical sense we have to assume that whats told about jesus is mostly bs. its just like in school when everyone in the class gathers in a big circle. the teacher whispers something in one kid's ear and the child passes it on to the next over and over and then the last kid says out loud what they were told and it is completely off. i think its crazy to believe that so many corrupt figures talk about spirituality and many accept their laws, not the creators. why would a parent like figure want you to praise and worship them? do you want your kids worshiping you? On top of that nonsense would you want your valued children worshiping you for what you created and idolizing that instead of trying to meet who created such wonders(Earth,Life, All etc). and if something is perfect why do we need to change anyone? wouldn't they be made perfect?

are you saying you doubt all of the story of Jesus?

Question for atheists, have y'all considered this:

Is it harder to build a house(modern) or human body(anytime)? if you chose house, name one soul from Earth that can or has created a real human.
Now for a house to be built what is needed(outside of physical and materials)? imagination which stems from intellect, which stems from consciousness. Now building a modern house with electricity, plumbing etc. isn't to easy for most and we agree that building a human is harder so why should we assume that some Great Intellect didn't create all, b/c nature, humans, universe is all spectacular beyond imagination? all we make is cool but is useless one day, but what came first that was made all around us is beautiful.
If you disagree still, does everything have a beginning? as far as Earth knows yes. so for one true start their had to be nothing(can't describe nothing b/c if you can make distinctions, it would no longer be just nothing).

[Pat McDonald]

Originally Posted by ChaosAngel

my 2 sense: The Buddha was said to be able to be in two places at once... and I think I heard that Jesus was also able to (FYI: my theological theory is that they were both super strong psions)

It would be easier to research 2 more recent individuals who shared a common diet, had a common ability, but used them in 2 completely different ways.

The individuals being "Mahatma" Mohandas K Ghandi and Adolf Hitler.

The common ability being leadership, or perhaps, "coercion".

[psionide]

Originally Posted by Pat McDonald

It would be easier to research 2 more recent individuals who shared a common diet, had a common ability, but used them in 2 completely different ways.

The individuals being "Mahatma" Mohandas K Ghandi and Adolf Hitler.

The common ability being leadership, or perhaps, "coercion".

I wouldn't call Ghandi "coercive". Hitler maybe, but not Ghandi.

[Pat McDonald]

If you define "coercive" as "leading" or "masterful", and you define "leadership" as "getting others to do what they would not do in other circumstances", then yes, both were coercive, albeit using different methods based on RADICALLY different philosophies.

Both were also vegetarian. Both had charisma, also known as "magnetic" personality.

[kgdaemperor]

but doesn't coercion deal with using force or intimidation to get ppl to comply? i get the relationship, its just that i have never heard that any real Buddhist was coercive. force is no no in that belief system. Buddha was a leader but he forced nothing.

[psionide]

Originally Posted by Pat McDonald

If you define "coercive" as "leading" or "masterful", and you define "leadership" as "getting others to do what they would not do in other circumstances", then yes, both were coercive, albeit using different methods based on RADICALLY different philosophies.

Both were also vegetarian. Both had charisma, also known as "magnetic" personality.

Really? De Fuhrer vos vegetarian? I thought he ate Jews... The bastard.

[Pat McDonald]

Nein. It would not be good Nazi behaviour to eat Untermensch (literally, "sub-human beings" - and no, I do not consider Jews to be anything other than human). There is some research on this, but I would welcome more (Israel doesn't - it undermines the "Jews are born apart" myth).

http://www.jogg.info/11/coffman.htm

There is some debate over whether Hitler enjoyed the odd sausage or not, but he was very, VERY "superior" about others enjoying eating "their dead flesh". So I think it's unlikely.

He was also noted as being very kind to animals, while being extremely hateful to humans. See, the completely evil human being is something of a myth.

Take Joseph Mengele. He was also a doting father to his own kids...

... and a complete psyscho with other people's kids.